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Traffic lights are a form mind control. amirite?
by Background_Duty45182 weeks ago
This. YouTube some videos of car crashes. Especially fatality crashes... Where one of the cars is 100 mph+. It's bad.
by MudNeat34152 weeks ago
I don't think OP framed it as "run this red light at high speeds since it's 2:30am" Instead it was "I'm sitting at this red light for over a minute and I haven't seen a car this entire time" in that case it would be safe to "run" the red light reasonably even if it's against the law. I think there's even something about this in the law for motorcycles that don't trip the sensor at lights. Since they could be stuck at a red light for a long time if there's no other cars around to trip the sensor.
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
I think that's what OP is talking about
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
Idk they didn't mention it, but when that happens, it's not against the law
by Interesting_Offer6802 weeks ago
No, I meant the that I feel the need to always follow driving laws so that I'm better prepared to encounter other people not following them (e.g. speeding).
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
Defensive driving is a great tool and I agree that everyone should follow that, everyone should follow the rules for driving. But sometimes like in OP'e scenario the rules don't make sense is what he's pointing out.
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
I get that rationale. But even if there is no one in sight?? Obviously if someone is going 80mph you would hear and see them. Think about an old county road….
by Background_Duty45182 weeks ago
"I didn't see anyone" said everyone who ends up running a light and hitting someone.
by Lavern832 weeks ago
I think you underestimate how quickly a car going 80 can appear out of nowhere
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
No, the reason is that motorists are narcissistic, myopic morons who assume they own the road purely because they take up the most amount of space.
by Affectionate-Gap2 weeks ago
Cuz im not tryna get ticketed you goof
by West_Photograph2 weeks ago
Very true.. And this is the same practice used to continuously erode "freedoms".. We aren't even free in America, but they give you enough to make you think you are free. We are all still slave to the fiat currency and that is the root in which all of the social contract theory digression stems from.. np pun intended
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
I am a staunch supporter of freedom and being legt to to whatever you want - but absolute freedom is anarchy, which is good for noone. Not sure if your fiat currency is some tangent into bitcoin though
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
If you're going to be a pedant, get it right so a bigger and better pedant doesn't come along and correct you.
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
You can take comfort in knowing that an inferior and incomplete knowledge of social contractarian theory is better than none at all.
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
What was your goal with all of this ? I didn't study philosophy ( it's mostly a waste of time, and studying a degree aimed at good conversation starters shows a lack of foresight) I studied law - And absolutely nothing I said is wrong. Go touch some grass
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
"Go touch some grass" So original! Your intellect is truly impressive.
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
Because I run a risk vs reward in my head and decide that saving a minute is not worth the small risk of having to pay hundreds in fines
by Low-Routine2 weeks ago
Or getting t-boned. The vehicle you can't see, might also not be able to see you. There's a reason for traffic lights.
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
Famous last words
by Hyman402 weeks ago
And crash control!
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
OP is correct. We choose to obey some rules in society so that we have a resource when someone wrongs us. On a separate note: I was going 75 on the freeway last night, and a sport bike passed me doing at least double my speed. I legit did not see them until they were in front of me, and I ride, I always look out for motorcycles! Actually, I noticed his buddy blow by a few lanes over and was extra aware that that exact moment. I wouldn't count on seeing the traffic coming.
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
It's a matter of habit. What you routinely do at a vacant traffic light will eventually be what you do no matter how many cars are on the road, and you'll end up killing a pedestrian or fellow motorist because of your self-justified behavior.
by Affectionate-Gap2 weeks ago
It's a bad habit to get into. You'll get a ticket or a collision eventually. I'd also rather run a red in broad daylight.. easier to look for cops, cameras, cars, etc.
by Jessica822 weeks ago
First off, what does it cost you? Nothing. Why so antsy in your pantsy? Were you in the military, so everything is hurry-up-and-wait? Secondly, the majority of people live in cities. You know, where we have a lot of traffic cameras. These traffic cameras operate at night, if you didn't know.
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
Red light cams
by Anonymous2 weeks ago
certainly are and have been mentally conditioned for a long long time
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